Todd Gurley Says NFL Players Are 'Just Mad About NBA Contracts'洛杉矶公羊队跑锋Todd Gurley表示,NFL球员“对NBA的合同感到很不爽”。
[–]EquivalentHandle 960 指標 10小時前
"Us NFL players, we're just mad about NBA contracts right now, that's all. I just want like $80 million. Those guys are getting like $150 [million]. It's crazy. It's insane."
“我们NFL球员,现在对NBA的合同感到很不爽,仅此而已。我只想要大概8000万美元而已。而那帮NBA球员拿着差不多1亿5000万美元。太假了,这太疯狂了。”
I don't blame him for being upset. However, the NBA doesn't have a 53 man deep roster like the NFL does. Also, injuries in the NFL tend to be more severe on average thus a higher turnover rate of players.
我不会因为不爽而责备他什么。然而,NBA可不像NFL那样得养活53个球员。还就是,NFL中的伤病往往会更严重些,因此球员的替换率会更高一些。
[–]siberianwolf99 359 指標 10小時前
Finally, a perfectly reasonable take.
终于看到一条非常有理有据的意见了。
[–]KnicksYoursTrulyYaniv 166 指標 10小時前
Not to mention the relevancy and popularity levels of the NFL is outside the U.S. compared to the NBA
更不用说跟NBA相比,NFL在国外的知名度和热度都低很多。
[–]Lakersohnothanksanyway 238 指標 10小時前
Also have to consider that the NFLPA might be the worst union in the United States
还得考虑到NFL的球员工会可能是美国最糟糕的一个工会了。
[–]greatjonunchained90 96 指標 8小時前
I'm pretty sure that's what Gurley and the others are alluding too. Fully guaranteed contracts are a damn no brainer.
我很确定这也是Gurley和其他球员在暗讽的一点。实行全额保障合同的政策应该算是不需要考虑的决定吧结果……
[–]BullsBigPoppaPuff 45 指標 10小時前
I just want like $80 million.
You and me both Gurley.
我只想要大概8000万美元而已。
Gurley老哥呀,我也想啊!
[–]Celticsnot_a_robot1 12 指標 7小時前
I love that it seems so casual. Like yeah man no shit we all want $80 mill.
最有意思的是他这话听上去好像就随随便便一说。这不废话嘛兄弟,我们都想要8000万美元。
[–]PacersSCREAMING_DUMB_SHIT 5 指標 6小時前
I mean to be fair the guy is one of the best running backs in the world in a league that makes billions yet gets payed less than bench guys in the NBA.
这个吧,公平地讲,他可是世界上最出色的跑锋之一,然而联盟赚得是盆满钵满了,工资发的还没NBA给替补球员发的多呢。
[–]76ersanser1233 159 指標 10小時前
If NFL gave guaranteed contracts Todd Gurley would make way less money.
要是NFL开的是保障合同的话,Todd Gurley会赚得更少的。
[–]sandman533 44 指標 9小時前
This. It doesnt change the already negotiated revenue split between the players and owners.
正解。全额保障并没有改变球员与老板之间已经商定好的收入分配比例。
[–]Sunscicadaenthusiat 22 指標 9小時前
I don't understand why NFL players don't strike. Goodel and the league have all the power right now and they abuse the hell out of it. Go on strike and they no longer have a product. NBA did it and it was the best thing that ever happened to players.
我不明白,为什么NFL球员不罢工呢。古德尔(NFL总裁)和联盟现在算是一手遮天,他们在滥用手中的力量。罢工的话,他们就再也没有赚钱的资本了。NBA就出现过这种情况,而那次的结果为球员们带来了史上最大的利好。
[–]ConstantFlyght 21 指標 8小時前
One reason most of the union members have short 1-3 year windows to get paid that they don't want to waste by protesting. To those guys something is better than nothing. It's greedy bullshit imo
其中一个原因是,球员工会的大部分成员只有短短1到3年的时间挣钱,他们不希望因为抗议而损失掉自己的工资。对他们而言,有总比没有要好。我觉得这就是贪心的下场。
[–]SupersonicsCaptMURRICA 21 指標 7小時前
I wouldn't call that greedy. Like you said, most players only have 1-3 years to make any money. Those players can't afford to sit out week-to-week without getting paid. Besides, if those players sit out, they can be easily replaced since there aren't guaranteed contracts.
我不觉得那叫贪心。就像你自己也说了,大部分球员只有1到3年去赚钱。那些球员没资本一周一周地罢工、一分钱拿不到。除此之外,如果那些球员罢工,他们很容易就能被顶替掉,因为他们的合同并不是保障性的。
The only way any progress can be made for the players is if the top-tier players sit out, but it's hard to find anyone willing to turn down million dollar weekly paychecks, even if it's for the greater good. It's easier in the NBA since you need less players to stand together to make an impact.
对球员来说,唯一能有所改善的方法是,顶级球员罢工,但是很难找到愿意拒绝周薪百万美元的人出来,即便这么做是为了争取更大的利益。这招在NBA里更容易实现,因为你只需要一小部分球员一起站出来就能对联盟产生影响。
[–][NYK] Baron Davisthemariokarters 250 指標 10小時前
Shoulda learned to shoot, Todd
那你本应该学学投篮呀老哥。
[–]CavaliersC_Money22 98 指標 8小時前
He should have learned to hit a baseball if he wanted to make the big bucks playing pro sports in the US.
Guys are starting to get $30 million plus a year for like 8+ year spans.
Of the largest 13 contracts in US sports history, 12 are baseball with just James Harden's most recent deal coming in at 7.
如果他想在美国的职业体育圈里赚大钱的话,他本应该去学学怎么打棒球啊。
棒球运动员现在竟然有年薪3000万美元、合同8年以上的。
美国体育界历史上最大的13份合同,有12份是棒球界的。唯一的例外是最近詹姆斯-哈登的那份合同,排名第7。
And if you want the most money "per game" you can't beat boxing at a high level. Mayweather's 2 year deal with Showtime worth $180 million got him $30 million a fight.
如果你希望“场均”薪资最高的话,高水平的拳击比赛无疑是最好的选择。梅瑟威和Showtime的2年价值1亿8000万美元的合同让他每场比赛挣3000万美元。
And of course NBA has all the rich endorsements. If you want to get a sweet Nike or Adidas (or Puma now I guess) deal, the NBA is your best bet.
当然,NBA拥有丰富的代言合同资源。如果你想从耐克或者阿迪达斯(现在我猜还包括彪马)那里得到一份大合同的话,NBA是你最好的选择。
If you are looking for money in pro American sports the NFL is your worst bet. The only one with a lower average yearly salary is the MLS. And you sacrifice your body far more playing football than you do playing soccer.
如果你想在美国职业体育圈里挣钱的话,NFL是你最糟糕的选择。只有MLS(美国职业足球大联盟)的平均年薪比它要低。而你打橄榄球对身体的消耗可远比踢足球要严重啊。
[–]kindawack 16 指標 4小時前
You're missing the fact that it's easier to get into the NFL(1,696 players) than the NBA(405-420 players).
你漏掉了一个事实,进NFL(1696名球员)比进NBA(405到420名球员)要容易啊。
[–]BucksTFaust75 103 指標 10小時前
53 vs. 15
[–]FranksGun 77 指標 10小時前
Wait till Todd learns about the salary cap in MLB...
等Todd Gurley知道MLB的工资帽后,不知会作何感想……
[–]WizardsRPDC01 22 指標 10小時前
It's now similar to NBA - lux tax, and tax teams get hosed in the draft (1st round pick drops 10 spots automatically), and get garbage comp picks when their free agents leave.
That played a huge role in the frozen MLB free agency market.
MLB现在和NBA很像——征收奢侈税,然后交奢侈税的球队在选秀中会吃亏(首轮签自动下滑10位),他们的自由球员离开时,球队会得到价值较低的选秀权。
这一规则在MLB一潭死水的自由市场上扮演着重要的角色。
[–]WarriorsJohnGoodmansPenis 107 指標 10小時前
Then they should have played basketball instead of a sport that gradually gives you brain damage. As long as the NFL has a team size of 50 plus and foreseeable injuries to multiple team members each season, guaranteed contracts as in the NBA and MLB will never be a thing.
既然挣得少,那他们本应该打篮球而不是从事一项逐渐损害你的大脑的运动啊。只要NFL球队还要养50多个球员、只要每个赛季都有多支球队的球员有着遭受伤病的可能,NBA和MLB的保障合同就永远不会在NFL成真。
Never too late to pull a Tebow and go play some minor league ball. He's in a Double A All-Star game this year!
走Tim Tebow的路永远都不迟,还是去职棒小联盟里打球吧。Tebow今年入选了小联盟二A级别的全明星赛呢!
[–]Jazzredsoxfan3444 53 指標 10小時前
This argument never made any sense to me. Do people not realize how uncommon it is for someone to be tall enough and have the right body type to play professional basketball? Todd Gurley is 6'1 and 230 lbs, that's considered an undersized PG in the NBA and also way too stocky.
这种论证在我看来没有任何意义。难道大伙儿就不知道打职业篮球的人都是些身高够高、体型还合适的人么?他们根本不是普通人啊。Todd Gurley身高1米85,体重104公斤,这身高在NBA这就是小个子控卫的水平,但是体重却太大了。
then most guys in the NFL that are around 6'6 and 6'8 are linemen that are 300 lbs. Receivers are the typically the only ones closest to having the right body types.
而NFL里的大部分球员都在1米98上下,锋线球员2米03重136公斤。外接手一般是唯一接近NBA标准体型的人了。
[–]Lakersexect4500 21 指標 10小時前
The NBA's player union is so much stronger than the NFL's player union. Also, the nature, of contracts in the NFL are so much more skewed towards favoring ownership it's ridiculous.
NBA的球员工会比NFL的球员工会要强大的多。还有,NFL里合同的性质更倾向于支持老板的权益,这实在是太荒谬了。